Any Other Anarchist here?

Dynamic · #1 03-27-2003, 03:21 AM

Well scene as the members from Rage Against The Machine are Anarchists and were on the matrix i decided to post this here, scene as i dont know this board to well.
Well i for one am an Anarchist. If anyone else here is an Anarchist post away, love to see who is on these forums.

Demiurgos · #2 03-27-2003, 05:59 PM

SEEING as Rage against the machine are not anarchists, I think it's safe to assume you stink. Anarchists believe there should be no government. What would happen? Absolute war. People would take advantage of other people's weakness, and there would be another kind of government, a mob. Anarchists are stupid (especially American ones) because they think they are being opressed horribly. Well obviously you, with access to electricity, the Internet, and a cd collection, are not being opressed. What are you rebelling against? Sure our government is run by a bunch of morons, and sure we should be able to do certain things we aren't allowed to do (drugs for example) but at least they're not bulldozing our houses because we don't agree with them. Our minds are free. That is what counts.

Dynamic · #3 03-28-2003, 12:52 AM

Rage Against The Machine are Anarchist in fact. Also, if you read up on Anarchy you will see there are morals. If you are an Anarchist you do not go out and rape someone just for fun or for any reason, so if people actually became Anarchists there will be no crime because they know its wrong to do that. BUT if some were Anarchists and others were not then you have a problem. Go to http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1931/ read up on it. Study it, and then come back and tell me i stink. You must have an argument before you attack.
And yes I am rebeling againt the Government. Lets see here.
Saddam Husein is a dictator yes?
Well 87% of AUSTRALIANS did not want to go to war. That its more than 3/4. John Howard (Our Prime Minister) sent HALF of our ground force to Iraq anyway. Now I thaught people could say what they wanted their country to do. In my view John Howard took it upon himself to speak on behalf of 87% of Australians and send out troops to war even though we did not want this to be. Now is that a democracy? NO
Unless you Rebel againts things you dont belive in you will never be heard. John Howard, George Bush, Tony Blair AND Saddam Husein are all Dictators in my opinion. You may have a different oppinion, but that does not give you the right to say i stink does it?

AcE · #4 03-28-2003, 01:12 AM

If,
Anarchism = Making bombs and robbing old ladies, I am not the one.

But if
Anarchism = peaceful coexistance between others without a control from a bunch of authority, That was me a year back.

I strongly promoted Anarchism. I had even written a huge article on it, that I posted at MFN and other sites. Anamoly might remember it and Omega knew about it...

But now, I dont believe in it. I still think its a perfect system and would create a perfect human world where everyone would be happy. There would be no suffering and pain. But remember, Humans define their existance through pain and misery...
Its a perfect system, but its not made for humans. Humans can never live in a state of non violance. They want to steal and rob others. They want to prove that they are in a higher state of being then others.
Omega, now I understand what you were trying to tell me back then.

HUMANITY SUCKS

Dynamic · #5 03-28-2003, 01:22 AM

It is the perfect system. And I do belive that if people stop acted like *******s to eachother and workek together it will be a perfect world. Scene as that wont happen I am confident to say that if you hate the government take up anarshism, scene as others wont and dont, so its balanced. But if everyone took it up it ould be very good.

AcE · #6 03-28-2003, 01:32 AM

Yes, its a perfect system. But its too perfect for human minds.
'Humans' (note the disgust in my voice) will never stop acting like whatever-you-said to each other...

I believe that Zion strongly follows this system. I dont think there are cops or goverment in Zion. There sure is military and even king, but I think they are just there for the combat purpose and not to control them.

Dynamic · #7 03-28-2003, 01:36 AM

yea, but also remember. You cant do a lot of stuff because of the system. I support the Troops 100% and hope they are ok, but the government i do not support. The system will work if it goes into practise, (in my opinion). At the moment You cant say it wont work and I cant say it will work because it has never been done before. Right now we are stating our opinions. BUT you can say if Democracy, Communism, Socialism etc if they work, because they have and are in practise. But yer, some of the stuff you said is right.

Demiurgos · #8 03-28-2003, 02:01 AM

Anarchy while a romantic idea could never, never work in practice, as ace said, humanity sucks too much. Like communism, it works in theory, but not in practice. Fascism and anarchy are at opposite ends of the spectrum, and both suck. In fascism, there is absolute power, in anarchy, there is absolute power. You are ignoring the fact that violent, racist, and insane people exist. They would rule in an anarchy, they would have the power.
That's right, you can't do certain things because of the system, murder, steal, bomb old ladies. And another thing, what do you think certain countries with organized powerful governments saw america become an anarchy? We would soon be living under a dictator. You must realize that just because a system is a system, it is not completely bad. Go spread anarchy in a country whose people would benefit from it, like Vatican City or something

RATM ARENT ANARCHISTS whoever told you that is a fool.

AcE · #9 03-28-2003, 02:11 AM

They, in a way, fight the system. What does Anarchism means? Fighting against the system?

Demiurgos · #10 03-28-2003, 02:16 AM

In a way yes, they do fight the system. They however do not consider themselves anarchists, but political reformists, which this country and world most definitely need. We do not need anarchists, or their crappy repetetive punk rock.

AcE · #11 03-28-2003, 02:28 AM

Crappy repetetive punk rock!?

If you talk against them... you DIE!!

Whatever they are, political reformists or anarchist... Their music is the best. period.

Demiurgos · #12 03-28-2003, 02:31 AM

Yes rage rocks buttocks. BUT THEYRE NOT ANARCHISTS if they were, they would sound all crappy like the misfits or the dead kennedies or whatever. If punk rock is about fighting the system, then why does all of it "CONFORM" to the same repetive format?
OY OY OY

by the way rage isn't the best :P go listen to children of bodom and become overwhelmed with psychadelic delight.

AcE · #13 03-28-2003, 02:55 AM

As a great man once said...
'Ok'
I think Cog said that... *Looks at his sig* Oh yeah....

Hornet2069 · #14 03-28-2003, 06:07 AM

LOL
*sigh* I love this board...

Dynamic · #15 03-28-2003, 06:30 AM

With all due respect Demiurgos, if anyone here is a fool it is you. If all you have against me is bagging what type of music i listen to or ("Anarchists") listen to. You cant say Anarchism works in theory and not in real life because It has never been in practise. With communism you cant say it doesnt work because if the country who has it fails with it its just the way the country ran it. I myself do not belive in communism. Also if Anarchism was put into practice and we ALL were anarchist, the world would have NO crime full stop. Learne what you are arguing against, study it, Study it again, and again. THEN come back and talk to me about it. Calling Anarchists Fools is no way to make friends, nor get your opinion out.

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